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Тусон, United Streetcar 200T № 101
  ТусонUnited Streetcar 200T № 101 
North 4th Avenue
The sale and possession of firearms is permitted in this state. So they are very tolerant, but there are limits: shooting at a police officer is forbidden and that is exactly what happened (again: apparently not so exceptional there) during my visit, causing a large part of the tram service to be interrupted. The interruption lasted until the end of the service, although the centre had been cleared earlier. The reason is that until the end of the investigation (which lasts all day) the police want to be free to park their vehicles everywhere and not be hindered by trams...

Автор: focus1965 · Антверпен           Дата: 22 июня 2022 г., среда

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Опубликовано 17.07.2022 16:43 MSK
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Тусон, United Streetcar 200T № 101

Депо/Парк:Sun Link
Модель:United Streetcar 200T
Построен:2014
Текущее состояние:Эксплуатируется
Назначение:Пассажирский

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17.07.2022 19:26 MSK
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Ymtram · Ист-Хейвен - Бранфорд
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And this is in Texas, where personal freedoms an common sense are still supposedly exercised. Yet another reminder that the police state idiocy in the US needs to be rolled back to pre-9/11 levels.
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17.07.2022 22:39 MSK
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Славик · Гамбург
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Цитата (Ymtram (Yury LRTA), 17.07.2022):
> And this is in Texas

B-b-but Tucson is in Arizona, isn't it?...
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17.07.2022 22:46 MSK
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Ymtram · Ист-Хейвен - Бранфорд
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Good catch, thanks. This was written on cruise control right after another comment on El Paso. Please read 'Arizona' above.
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17.07.2022 23:08 MSK
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focus1965 · Антверпен
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As an outsider, I only know that there is something in common in Texas and Arizona: the permitted gun ownership and possession and the climate, and with it, the desolate landscape without any greenery, unless it is a cactus here or there.
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17.07.2022 23:58 MSK
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R. S. · Лодзь
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Quote (focus1965, 17.07.2022):
> the desolate landscape without any greenery

Central AZ https://www.google.com/maps/@34.5029156,...6?hl=en and eastern TX https://www.google.com/maps/@31.0046075,...6?hl=en would like a word :)
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18.07.2022 14:18 MSK
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Подпись к фотографии: кого-то застрелили, пусть даже полицейского, и движение трамвая было закрыто на много часов... чтобы во время расследования полиция могла припарковать её машины.

В Сан-Хосе в Калифорнии несколько лет назад какой-то псих влез на крышу "трамвая" (light rail), и сидел там 12 или 14 часов, и соответственно всё движение стояло.

В Нью-Йорке и в Районе Залива Сан-Франсиско (BART) поезда метро иногда задерживаются из-за "полицейской активности".

А в то же время, был документальный фильм про Московское метро, так там говорили, что если кто-то упадает под поезд, то движение восстанавливается через 20 минут. За это время проводится расследование и путь отмывается от крови. (Кто-то вроде бы раньше говорил, что труп обычно находят под 3-м вагоном.) В России кое-где умеют работать!

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In San Jose in California a few years ago a man climbed on the roof of a light rail car and seated there for 12 or 14 hours, and all trains were stopped.

In New York and on the San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) trains are sometimes late because of "police activity".

At the same time, there was a documentary about Moscow subway, and they told that if somebody is hit by a train, trains resume running after 20 minutes. In this time investigation must be completed and the track washed of blood. Somebody told probably before that the body is usually found under the 3rd car.
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19.07.2022 23:40 MSK
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focus1965 · Антверпен
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Quote (R. S., 17.07.2022):
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> Central AZ would like a word :)

Of course you are right: the west side is green. I had not clarified that I was talking about the east side, which I visited.


Quote (Евгений Лысый, 18.07.2022):
> At the same time, there was a documentary about Moscow subway, and they told that if somebody is hit by a train, trains resume running after 20 minutes. In this time investigation must be completed and the track washed of blood.

If they were to quickly clear tram tracks after a super banal accident with only a few scratches on the car and the tram, I would find it worthwhile to discuss further.
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24.07.2022 23:45 MSK
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A you wrote, service was interrupted not even because police investigated something, but because it needed to park some their vehicles. This sounds ridiculous. They don't take transportation seriously.
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26.07.2022 23:24 MSK
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focus1965 · Антверпен
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Quote (Евгений Лысый, 24.07.2022):
> They don't take transportation seriously.

"They" = the police. And then I agree for 100 % with you.

As everywhere, the tram company (or the city, or whoever) has no influence in the operation and demands of the police. Not in Russia, not in Europe, not in America...
The tram company did its very best and in an exemplary manner.

1. The displays at each stop were immediately provided with the necessary information about the service interruption and also (later) how to get to their destinations.
2. In less than half an hour, a shuttle bus could be chartered: I can find many big cities where this would take half a day, if anything can be organised. So here they were able to find both a bus and a driver.
3. At the bus/tram interchange, there was a controller/dispatcher (function unknown to me) who explained to all travellers and indicated how long they had to wait for the bus. I got there first and was told that the bus had just left, but the route was quite short and the driver would probably be back within 15-20 minutes and that I didn't need to worry. It was during the waiting period that the man explained to me how the financing of this tram company worked (free for passengers, more than 60% of the costs are covered by advertising revenue), what was going on, why the tram was not running, etc.

As said, the tram company has no influence over requirements of the police. The bus followed the tram route, I sat there as a passenger but saw nothing: no police shooting at a bandit who would have shot at the police first...
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26.07.2022 23:40 MSK
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Ymtram · Ист-Хейвен - Бранфорд
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Цитата (focus1965, 26.07.2022):
> As everywhere, the tram company (or the city, or whoever) has no influence in the operation and demands of the police. Not in Russia, not in Europe, not in America...
> The tram company did its very best and in an exemplary manner.

Well, technically speaking the US police departments are city-run and there should be some degree of mutual responsibility and thus influence. Or rather there was one before... What you are describing is mostly post 9/11 mentality, which assumes 'safety/security-first' approach and thus is not negotiable. Unfortunately the police in the US lost touch with reality on this one, and no one can object to that including politicians. Otherwise you will be branded 'anti-safety/security', which is a taboo.

> The tram company did its very best and in an exemplary manner.

I know who is behind it, and it is nice to read your impressions )
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